PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #3: Below the home of Brown (3PJs4Gold #3)

The third clue deals with the “home of the Brown”, this has been touted as the main clue.  If you find the home of the Brown, you will find the location of where to start your search (which particular canyon or river) and possibly complete your search.  The full clue is “Put in below the home of Brown.”  So the thought is that your search begins below this thing that is Brown.  I say ‘thing’, because people have conjectured that it is the home of a famous person, explorer, or celebrity (i.e., The unsinkable Moly Brown), a color of a mountain, or the name of an animal.  Since Brown is capitalized (Forrest meant it that way) it is assumed to be a proper name or an animal’s name like Brown trout or Brown bear.  Capitalization also denotes importance.  Dal, one of the most avid searches, believed it was related to Brown trout

http://lummifilm.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/part-two-interpreting-the-clues/

This was a few years ago, he may have other thoughts as well and he shares them on his blog.  Dal’s blog has been very insightful.  Thanks for sharing Dal.

Many folks believe that ‘Put in’ hints that Forrest put the chest in a cave or in the water.  Or I have seen others say that ‘Put in’ is a boating/fishing team meaning put the boat in the water or step into the river to start your journey, such as, ‘put in’ at the boat ramp.  I prefer the later interpretation of ‘put in’ meaning start the journey or launch your ship.

The launching version makes cense for where we are in the poem too,  we are only at the 8th line of 24 (1/3 of the way).  Also the next line begins, “From there”, it sure seems like Forrest is still giving step by step directions once we establish a starting point.  However, using either version, you will still need to define the home of Brown.  Whether you do an extensive search directly below the home or whether it is a launch point depends on your other clues, such as finding the blaze

But I would not be surprised if this clue actually has double meanings.  It is the shortest clue and the most succinct.  You may find the treasure under the home of Brown, but after starting from a different home of Brown.

The home of Brown

Do you think this is the home of Brown; I think Not

Do you think Forrest meant PJ’s Home of Brown.  I think not.  Let’s use Yellowstone as an example.  Begin where warm water halts.  Clue 2. The Madison River was one of Forrest Fenn’s Favorite rivers for many fishing holes.  The Madison River flows into the Hebgen Lake which is dammed.  The Geysers from Yellowstone feed into the water of the Madison via Fire Hole River.  Hence Warm waters halt at the dammed lake.  Clue 3.  Grizzly Bears are a subspecies of ‘Brown bears’ per wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_bear  Grizzlies live in Yellowstone and therefore it is there home, so when the Madison River crosses into Yellowstone, we ‘Put in below the home of Brown’ (i.e., Launch) for our search.  (As an example of the double meaning, if we find the treasure under water, Brown trout live in the river, so it could be said that the gold was ‘put in below the home of Brown’.)

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4.

Therefore I believe the most import way to use this clue is to use the launch definition and determine what is the home of the Brown and start your quest below it; where warm waters halt.  This would also be the point where you would start measuring any distances if you buy into the cypher concept.  But keep an ever watchful eye out for a Blaze under ‘the home of Brown’.  I am currently inclined to believe that home of the Brown, means Brown Trout, but I would hate to deter great searching.

Any other thoughts on what the home of the Brown is?  Thoughts on clue 4 will be in the following blogs.

Google: Dal lummifilm
Google:  The Thrill of the Chase
Google:  The unsinkable Moly Brown  wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Brown

PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #2: Warm Waters Halt

Now for the second clue, but first I promised that there would be elephants on this Junket, so from the first clue, we surmised that the old treasure was in Yellowstone and the river could be used as a cypher to unlock the new treasure’s location.  Well, in Yellowstone there is a mountain called Elephant Back Mountain in the center of the park.  I love Yellowstone, I have great memories from visits as a kid too.

PJ's Hunt for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Elephant Back Mountain in Yellowstone

The most memorable was when I accidently took an absorbent amount of sequential pictures of Old Faithful while my parents were entranced by the fabulous fountain and not watching their youngest child use his new camera for the first time.  We had enough pictures to make grandmas and the cousins photo albums too.

So back to the second clue, the commonly excepted explanation is that this is where to start the search, where warm waters halt.  Even Forrest Fen says hunters should start looking here, but what are warm waters and what is halting?

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3

Warm waters have been frequently suggested to be geysers or hot water springs flowing into the river.  Fenn was a fisherman and one of the seekers, has pointed out that the definition of Warm Waters per New Mexico wildlife website (http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/recreation/fishing/index.htm) , is any stream or lake not classified as a trout river.  I prefer the hot springs definition, but we need to keep our options open.

What does waters halt mean.  This is commonly excepted to be a dam or where a river flows into another river.  I hole heartedly agree.  The NM wildlife website has a very helpful map of all the fishing lakes and dams.

“And take it in the canyon down”.  This seems very innocuous, every river is basically a canyon.  It all depends on the depth and width.

“not far, but too far to walk.”  Ok! That seems reasonable, I don’t really want to walk all that far anyway.  I have read almost everywhere that this means Forrest drove to drop off the trove.  Although it could mean that there is a steep drop off or deep rocky canyon.  Either way, this is a starting point not the final hiding spot; just be careful, if there is a cliff.

So, the proposed clue is:  Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].

But where do we start?  The thoughts on that will be in the following blog

PJ’s PJ 4 PJs and Gold – Clues to Forrest Fenn’s Treasure: Clue 1

The Poem by Forrest Fenn, is the key to finding the treasure.  Mr. Fenn has said that there are nine clues in the poem.  Many folks have tried to narrow down 9 phrases or words that are the most important hints, but with 174 words, 24 lines, and 9 sentences, Forrest has stated that the words are important.  He did have several years to write it.  Hmmm, 9 sentences.  I believe that each sentence is a clue.  Yes, some of them may have multiple ideas, but it would be hard to imagine that the first 4 lines would be unimportant.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2
Put in below the home of Brown. 3
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7
So hear me all and listen good, 
your effort will be worth the cold. 8
If you are brave and in the wood
 I give you title to the gold. 9

Let’s discuss the first sentence.  Several folks believe that this is just a introduction or Forrest is choosing the treasures to add in the box.  This is over 1/8 of the poem, there has to be something about the location here.  The common belief is that Fenn is saying, he took the treasure to the secret hiding spot.  The next phrase is the key, “And hint of riches new and old”.  Some think that this means there were Treasures there before, like gold.  I believe that this means that the clues work for both old riches and new treasures.  Old riches would be like Forrest’s favorite sport; fishing.  It is well known and well documented in Forrest’s memoir that Fenn’s old favorite fishing spot were in Yellowstone.  The favorite fishing hole is 9 mile hole.  Now we need to find that new riches; the treasure.  The old riches  9 mile hole could be used as a cypher (key) to find the new riches.  Fisherman use mileage of the rivers to compare mileage in other rivers.  We need the other clues to tell us were to take this distance from.  But be careful, every river is different, it’s just a hint, not an exact measurement.  Plus, there are over a million people a year that visit Yellowstone, and professional treasure hunters have searched the area with metal detectors over the last 2 years. If there was gold here, It would have been found already.  This allows Forrest to pay homage to Yellowstone and still hide his treasure.

So, the first clue is a cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting to new riches: The treasure.

But where?  The thoughts on that will be in the following blogs.

PJs Pachyderm Junket Clues

I think Nine Mile Hole (old riches) is a cypher to the gold (new riches)

PJ’s Pachyderm Journey for Precious Jewels and Gold

PJ’s special assignment.  PJ’s going on a treasure hunt.  PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & gold (PJ’s Pachyderm Journey for Precious Jewels and Gold).  We are tracking down Forrest Fenn’s treasure based on the following poem containing 9 clues.  And yes, there are elephants involved (at least in my version of the story).

For those of you who may not have heard.  Forrest Fenn has hidden a treasure worth $1 million to $3 million in the rockies north of Santa Fe, MN.  See this website for more info:  http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/the-thrill-resource-page

The pondering poem from the “Thrill of the Chase” reads: 

As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,

And hint of riches new and old.

Begin it where warm waters halt

And take it in the canyons down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.

From there it’s no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;

There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,

But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.

So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answer I already know,
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak.

So hear me all and listen good,

Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold.

Why go on this quest, you might ask?  Well, there is the financial reward, but I am an engineer, so I want to solve the puzzling poem.  It also gives me a chance to play a little Indiana Jones (without the snakes, I hope).  And lets’ me pretend to be an exploring elephant like PJ in “PJ and the Crazy Squirrels”.  So this blog series will discuss the clues, explain the strategies, and pass on planning tips to find the treasure of Forrest Fenn.

Next post we will discuss the clues.  So, if you have any questions or thoughts, please let me know.

PJ's Goal of Gold

PJ’s Goal is a Treasure box of Gold and Precious Jewels

Pachyderms in the Park; Where’s PJ?

Pachyderms in the Park; Where’s PJ?

With the end of the San Antonio spring break, but the beginning of others, we can look back fondly on these Pachyderms from years ago.  PJ was at an amusement park and saw this carousel with these flying elephants.  Can you tell me, Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Carousel

A Pachyderm Carousel

Hint 2:

Horton was outside of the ride.  Where’s PJ?

Horton the Elephant

Horton in da house

Hint 3

I am not sure what this animal is, but it’s definitely a pachyderm, since it has a trunk.  The girls were younger, but I still had to make them pose.  Where’s PJ?

Riding the Pachyderm

The Girls in Da House

Hint 4

This gives a larger picture of the carousel with Horton on top.  PJ is at an amusement park, but which one?  Where’s PJ?

Horton the Elephant

Horton on top of the Carousel

Answer:

PJ is at Islands-of-Adventure which is part of the universal studios parks in Orlando.  This part of the park is Suess Landing and the carousel is Caro-seuss-el.  It is great for kids.  We had a great time and recommend it for family fun.

Pachyderms at Islands of Adventure

Islands of Adventure. A great place to see Pachyderms

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels is Officially Released

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels is now available on Amazon.com and other book stores;  online and around the corner like Barnes and Noble.

http://www.amazon.com/PJ-Crazy-Squirrels

PJ the Purple Elephant

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels bursting into stores everywhere.

Where’s PJ?: Which Zoo?

We are changing the format of Pachyderm Junket on PJstyle.com.  We will still show the elephant collection, but not everyday.  We will continue Where’s PJ.  So to start this new format, let’s stay with the Zoo theme from yesterday and tell me where this Pachyderm is playing?  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm in a Zoo

What Zoo is this elephant in? Where’s PJ?

Hint 2:

The girls are leaning on a bronze elephant statue at the same pachyderm exhibit.  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Statue

The girls are kick’n back on plant

Hint 3:

The name of the exhibit which the elephants are in is Africa Live.  They have exhibits of many African animals like hippos, crocodiles, and of course elephants.  But, here is an extra credit question; what is different/incorrect about the elephant exhibit than other African exhibits?  Where PJ?

Africa Live

Two elephants at the Zoo

Hint 4:

Angela at the elephant exhibit in Africa Live.  The roses and Angela, beautify the picture, but what about this exhibit (besides Angela) does not fit the African motif?  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Exhibit

Elephants in the Park. Where’s PJ?

Answer:

The elephants are at the San Antonio Zoo.  The non-African motif is the fact that these are Asian Elephants as indicated by the placard and seen by the size of their ears.  I guess once a zoo has an elephant it’s a valuable commodity that you do not want to move around even if the rest of the exhibits are from Africa.

Asian Elephants at San Antonio Zoo

Asian Elephants at San Antonio Zoo

Elephants at Zoo-AR.com

I found some elephants on this cool iPhone App Web-site:  Zoo-AR

Take a look at the video on the home page.

zoo-ar.com

Elephant at Zoo-AR

Check it out. Elephant in 3D

PJ’s First Image

This was Linda’s creative interpretation of PJ’s image with a motivational statement.  It was Linda’s first sketch of PJ.

PJ the Purple Elephant

First Image of PJ

Elephant Candlestick Holder

For those that like to burn candles, This elephant candlestick holder can take the flame to new heights.

Do you like candles?

Elephant Candlestick Holder

Anyone have a light?

Where’s this sparkly Elephant?

PJ was at a well known amusement park and went under this elephant during this ride.  Where’s PJ?

Wheres PJ?

This Elephant also wiggles

Hint 2:

Here’s another small hint with a wider view.  Does this help?  Where’s PJ?

Elephant and Friends

Elephant and Friends

Answer:

PJ is riding “It’s a Small World” within Disney’s Magic Kingdom.  There are other elephants on the ride too like this one.  But be careful, the song may get stuck in your head the rest of the trip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It’s_a_Small_World

Its a Small Elephant World

It’s an Elephant in “It’s a Small World”

Linda’s Favorite Elephant

This was Linda’s (my sister’s) favorite elephant.  It was her inspiration for creating her first drafts of PJ.  It was a great gift from her.

What is your inspiration?

Favorite Elephant of Linda

Linda’s Fave

Elephant From Target 2006

This elephant was from the Target store in 2006.  This is the kind of target elephants should be, not targets for poachers.

Elephant from Target

It was a good year for this Elephant

Battle for the Elephants

This documentary is a Web series from National Geographic filmmakers who share their experiences documenting the illegal ivory trade.

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/06/battle-for-the-elephants/

Have you had a chance to see it?

 

Dr. Seuss Pachyderm Picture Frame

Dr. Seuss’s Birthday was March, 2.  This picture frame reminds us of days long gone of reading books to the girls at night.  Happy Birthday Dr. Seuss and thank you for bringing us such great classics like Green Eggs and Ham, How the Grinch Stole Christmas and of course Horton.

Do you have pics of your kids when they were little?

Dr Seuss Elephant

Horton and the Christina

Lullaby Elephants

These elephants were by my daughters’ sides when they slept as babies.  When you pull the trunk, it plays a lullaby to sooth their cries.

Do you have a toy that helps/helped your kids sleep?

Lullaby Elephant

Lullaby and Good Night

Elephants at Carnahan Art Walk 2012

PJ was not the only pachyderm at the Art Walk; there were several.  Dingy elephants, messy mastodons, and paper pachyderms were there for all to see.

This first pic shows Scott Wade’s work on his car.  Scott’s link is at: www.DirtyCarArt.com.

Dr. Seuss in Dust

Dr. Seuss in Dust

They made clay elephants 2 booths down, but I was unable to get a pic before they cleaned up.   The Art Walk leaders had even printed out an adorable elephant for my name tag.

And of course PJ was there in paper and pixel.

PJ's Table

PJ everywhere

Thanks for all those that came by and chatted or played the PJ games.  Don’t forget the free version can be downloaded at:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pj-the-dentist-free-pj-style/id576621035?mt=8

And “When I Grow Up: PJ Style Interactive is at:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/when-i-grow-up-pj-style-interactive/id585972503?mt=8

I was very impressed with Scott’s skill.   What do you think?

Where’s PJ and these Elephants?

PJ was at an amusement park and saw this elephant pic on one of the rides.  With Spring Break quickly approaching, we are going cabin fever.  Can you tell me, Where’s PJ?

Pachyderms in the Park

These Elephants are taking a ride. Where’s PJ

Hint 2:

This elephant was one of the other animals on the carousel.  Do you know what Park this Ride is in?  Where’s PJ?

Elephant on a Carousel

Where’s this elephant ride

Hint 3

This was the carousel animal that the first pachyderm pic was on.  Not sure why a zebra has an elephant on it’s saddle, but it’s a very good painting, don’t you think?  Where’s PJ?

Elephant Saddle

Elephant Saddle

Hint 4

PJ at an amusement park, but which one?  Where’s PJ

PJ ready to ride

PJ is ready to ride

Hint 5

PJ rode this roller coaster.  Where’s PJ

Galiath

Galiath, A Great Roller Coaster

Hint 6

This is the newest ride at the amusement park PJ is at.  Where’s PJ?

Sky Screamer

Another Cool Ride

 

Answer:

PJ is at Six Flags Fiesta Texas.  They fly the same flags that fly at the Alamo; they are the flags that flew over Texas as a Republic or as part of a Nation.   The Flags over Texas (Order of Display left to Right) are France, Confederacy, Republic (and now State Flag), Mexico, Spain, USA (in front)

The sequential order of year flown is:  Spain, France, Mexico, Republic (and now State Flag), USA (flag before Confederacy and after), Confederacy

Six Flags Fiesta Texas

Six Flags is always always a blast

Oriental Elephant

This elephant has imbedded green flowers in an oriental style.  I purchased this pachyderm when I was on my trip to Japan.

Do you have a favorite flower elephant?

Oriental Style Elephant

One of my favorite styles