3PJs4Gold #9: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #9: Brave and in the wood. (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The ninth clues of the poem, but not the last one that Forrest gave seems pretty simple, but what reality is may be in question.  Let talk get a better understanding

“If you are brave and in the wood”:  This phrase does call us to go search.  It almost appears that this was a ‘By the Way’ type statement.  As in, you have made it this far, but there is one more thing.  Most searchers believe this is synonymous for ‘in the woods’.  So is Forrest just telling us to look in the woods, a tree, stacked lumber, or perhaps is it just in a wooden box?  If we go back to English 101, we see that this prepositional phrase should actually have a coma after it, but it does not.  Since Forrest generously uses copious comas in the rest of the poem, is this phrase hinting at something more?  Well, if we read it the way it is written, it needs to be related to the next phrase of ‘I give you title to the gold’

“
I give you title to the gold.”: This phrase is commonly excepted that Forrest is giving us title to the gold when we find it.  It has been warned that if the treasure is found on National Forrest’s or National Park’s property you cannot remove abandoned items from the property.  It has also been said it is a law in New Mexico that the owner of the property receives ½ of any found valuables.  These concerns have serious liabilities, but if Forrest is giving you the title, maybe you are just retrieving lost property.  However, you will still need to pay taxes.  (Of course, you always pay taxes).  There have been some schemes on how to remove the treasure, but the best policy may be to tell the truth.

So going back to the ‘in the wood’ and no coma, Forrest may just be telling us that just because we started on the journey, we have title to the gold.  It may also indicate that we have to find it hidden in, around, or behind something wooden (i.e. a grove of trees).  Either way we must be ever diligent.  We will see the treasure exposed or wood may be blocking our view, but Forrest has given us the title.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5. Wisely find the marker/path, the treasure will be below this blaze, don’t wait, grab and go.  Tell folks once you and the chest are secure.
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6. Transition clue which indicates the end of the clues for the cypher and the rest of the clues only relate to the new treasure.
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7.  Forrest is familiar with and enjoyed times at the hiding location; he was tired when he hid the chest.
So hear me all and listen good, 
your effort will be worth the cold. 8.  It may hint at hiding it up north, but don’t ignore the other clues.  It may just be a warning to be prepared.  Look for something that might appear frozen or or hint at cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
 I give you title to the gold. 9.  It may be in the in around or behind wood, but Forrest has given us the Title

With these clues, I wish you luck in finding the Treasure.  I am going on a trip this weekend to test these theories.  I will tell you the exact locations of where I search and why I think they meet these clues, when I’m finished scouring the area.  You may use the information as you like, once I am complete or share them with friends; Enjoy.  If this has been helpful, please let me know.

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PJ Found the Treasure

News Flash:   PJ Found Forrest Fenn’s Treasure in Yellowstone.  More Detail to follow:

PJ Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

PJ the Purple Elephant Found Forrest Fenn’s Treasure in Yellowstone

Right below 7 Mile Bridge:

Oh Sorry, This just in:   April Fools !!!

These are my real Treasures.  Although, Christina’s braces cost us a fortune, her smile looks like a million bucks.

PJ's Real Treasures

These are my real treasures. They are rooting me on to find Forrest Fenn’s Treasure and actually asked several questions this weekend.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3PJs4Gold #8: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #8: It’s worth the Cold. (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The eighth clue calls our attention and tells us to go out in the cold. We know why we want to go, but let’s see what this clue might mean.

“So hear me all and listen good,”: This phrase of the clue calls us to attention.  Forrest is commanding us all to listen.  And listen good.  He definitely has our attention.  We all want the treasure.  Most people believe this phrase is just providing a word to rhyme with wood.  It does that and it also puts the action of the poem back in our hands.  We have to do something.  Our job now is to listen.  So lets hear the next part of the clue.

“
your effort will be worth the cold.”:This phrase 
is all about our willingness to go hunt

PJ's Cold

PJ is ready for the cold. Are you?

for the treasure.  Is it worth getting a little cold?  Well as long as you’re prepared, then you should be fine, but make sure that you are hunting safely.  Everyone is responsible for themselves.

Let’s take a closer look at this clue.  Some folks say that this clue hints that the treasure may be up in the northern Rockies because it is colder up north, but let’s not forget, that melting snow is cold no matter what part of the world you are in.  This could hint at the northern Rockies, but that seems to go against our previous clue #7 ‘I’ve done it tired’.  It may hint up north, but maybe we need to watch for other things that hint at cold as well.  Maybe a formation that looks frozen or appears cold.  I would keep my eyes open, because it is always colder in the mountains, especially for us Texans.  Hunt in the cold, the warmth, or the rain, just be carful, and have fun.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5. Wisely find the marker/path, the treasure will be below this blaze, don’t wait, grab and go.  Tell folks once you and the chest are secure.
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6. Transition clue which indicates the end of the clues for the cypher and the rest of the clues only relate to the new treasure.
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7.  Forrest is familiar with and enjoyed times at the hiding location; he was tired when he hid the chest.
So hear me all and listen good, 
your effort will be worth the cold. 8.  It may hint at hiding it up north, but don’t ignore the other clues.  It may just be a warning to be prepared.  Look for something that might appear frozen or or hint at cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
 I give you title to the gold. 9  Next Blog

Don’t get frostbite and do good planning before you leave.  Good Luck!!

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3PJs4Gold #7: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #7: I’ve done it tired and weak. (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The seventh clue explains Forrest’s state of mind and condition when he hid the treasure.  So let’s discuss this clue.

“The answer I already know,”: This phrase of the clue states that Forrest already knows where the answer is.  This seems obvious, so why state that in the poem.  The most common hypothesis is that Forrest new this hiding location well.  In fact, Forrest has been rumored as saying that he was very familiar with the place and enjoyed visiting the area.  This interpretation has led most hunters to study the history and interests of Forrest Fenn’s Life.  It’s a smart idea to understand Forrest’s Fenn.  He even says that there is some insightful information in his book:  The Thrill of the Chase  He a very eloquent writer and I have thoroughly enjoyed reading his stories.

“
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak.”: These phrases of the clue is referring to Forrest’s condition when he hid the treasure.  He was 79 and had just recovered from cancer.  Cancer can be a very debilitating disease.  Forrest is a fighter and the cancer is in remission, but by this phrase we might be able to infer that the disease he defeated may have had some impact on him. He is strong, so I would think that I would even have trouble keeping up with him.  That being said, Forrest inserted this into the poem, so many folks have interpreted this to mean that the Treasure is not far from a road.  Folks also belief that he drove most of the way to hide the Treasure and only hiked the last stretch.  It has been reported that Forrest took 2 trips to place the items in the chest.  It is a common belief which I share with others, that this clue indicates you don’t need to do anything heroic to search for the chest.  No repelling, rock climbing, or herculean efforts needed.  Just 42 pounds of treasure on a one way journey.  For total disclosure, some folks also believe that this clue means he did not hide it far from Santa Fe.  Maybe this hints at New Mexico, but you can get to most of the Rockies driving a car on a 3 day road trip.  The quest has been enjoyable for researchers and some have even taken their families along on the journey as reported by: http://mysteriouswritings.com/six-questions-with-stephanie-owner-of-whats-a-blaze-blog/

There is also additional valuable information on this sight.  I hope you enjoy.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5. Wisely find the marker/path, the treasure will be below this blaze, don’t wait, grab and go.  Tell folks once you and the chest are secure.
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6. Transition clue which indicates the end of the clues for the cypher and the rest of the clues only relate to the new treasure.
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7.  Forrest is familiar with and enjoyed times at the hiding location; he was tired when he hid the chest.
So hear me all and listen good, 
your effort will be worth the cold. 8 Next Blog
PJ's Tired and so was Forrest

PJ’s tired and so was Forrest when he hid the chest.

I hope you are not tired like PJ in the Pic, I plan to not rest until I find the treasure.  PJ questions where the treasure is, but Forrest knows.  Forrest was tired when he hid the chest, but you may have to hoist 42 lbs of wealth.  Good Luck!!

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3PJs4Gold #6: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #6: Trove for all to Seek (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The sixth clue-“So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek?”: This

PJ's Treasure Trove

A Trove of Gold and Precious Jewels. Now that is PJ style.

clue starts to answer why Forrest is leaving the treasure.  We know he had cancer and we are thankful it’s in remission, but why did he leave the treasure where he did?  We will find out in the next sentence.  This is 2 lines of the poem so why does Forrest add this to the poem, why is it written in first person, and why do I think this is a clue.  Well I believe this is a transition sentence/clue.  Forrest hasn’t used first person since clue#1.  This change in style, provides even more credence to the cypher of Yellowstone.  It gives a breaking point to end the clues for the cypher of the old treasure and indicates that the rest of the poem will only give final guidance for the new treasure.  Clues #2-#5 relate to the old and new treasures, from now on the Poem continues in present voice and hints of only the new treasure.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5. Wisely find the marker/path, the treasure will be below this blaze, don’t wait, grab and go.  Tell folks once you and the chest are secure.
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6. Transition clue which indicates the end of the clues for the cypher and the rest of the clues only relate to the new treasure.
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7 Next Post

Good luck seeking the trove.  Of course, don’t forget Dal and the other treasure hunters have some other ideas as well at:

http://lummifilm.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/the-nine-clues-part-two/

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3PJs4Gold #5: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #5: Find the Blaze, Tarry Scant, and Go in Peace (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The fifth clue also contains many actions.  This clue includes some of the most important steps for finding the treasure, and finally achieving our goal of taking the chest.  So lets check them out.

“If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,”:I believe that this may be the most import

PJ the Purple Elephant

PJ’s Blaze

piece of the puzzle, because in some cultures, wisdom is more revered than wealth.  At least, that is what I remember hearing.  In the USA we don’t get this lesson quite often enough.

Another reason why this is import is because of the phrase that follows.  “look quickly down, your quest cease.” (explained next).  If you find the blaze you have found the treasure (well, basically).  No matter how you got here; whether you walked for miles, drove a car, rode a horse, or even accidentally tripped over it.  Though Forrest says it is unlikely to accidentally find it.  It’s more likely that you have pondered, planned, and plotted to find it.  I believe this blaze is so import that it would even trump the distance calculated from the cypher of the first clue (remember it’s just a hint).  Wisely see the blaze and you have found what you seek.

Fireworks for PJ

Are Fireworks a blaze. We’ll just keep these for celebration when we find the treasure.

So what is the blaze?  The most commonly held beliefs are that it is a marker, the actual trail, some kind of petroglyph, or a previous fire.  Will PJ’s blaze (logo) indicate where the treasure is?  No, more likely “FF” than “PJ”.  How about fireworks as a blaze?  Well maybe in celebration of finding the treasure, but not marking the spot.  Some hunters think that a city name meaning ‘Fire’ or ‘Flame’, might be a blaze too.  A blaze might have multiple meanings even in the same search, like a marker found after Fire City (I just made up the name).

Stephanie has a blog that will likely shed more light on a blaze and the other clues:  whatsablaze.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/whats-a-blaze/  She has been searching and sharing great knowledge almost as long as Dal and both are fantastic resources.

“look quickly down, your quest to cease,”: So now that we have found the blaze these phrases complete the action.  Look down and your done.  Well, it may not be quite that easy, but you’re certainly close to holding the gold.

The other hint this phrase provides is the end point of the cypher from the first clue.  The distance from Nine Mile Hole (Old Blaze) in Yellowstone should be a similar distance to the new blaze ‘up your creek’.  This distance should be the miles from where you put in during Clue #3 below the home of Brown to the new blaze.  No, it’s not 9 miles.  That name is based on the distance from the entrance of Yellowstone.  So what is it?  Forrest was a fisherman.  The measurement is based on the length of the river.  So, by printing out the map and taking a string.  I have estimated the length to be 16 miles.  If you followed every bend and not just the main flow, you could get as high as 18 miles or more.  Some could also argue that ‘cease’ is the end of the 14th line of the poem.  Maybe the distance is hidden in the poem.  Anyway you slice it, a 4 mile range is much better than 382,894 sq miles of the rocky mountains.

“but tarry scant with marvel gaze,”:  You don’t want to stand around and gawk.  But

PJ the Purple Elephant

Let’s skedaddle PJ

why? Some believe that there may be flash floods in the river, or there may be a crumbly wall.  Folks have even said that there may be wild animals or even other seekers that may try to take your prize.  There may be many reason to not hang around, but keep a watchful eye.  My wife just wants to make sure that I don’t get bit by a snake, mauled by a bear, or questioned by the feds.  All good reasons not to tarry.

”just take the chest and go in peace.”: Oh!.  This seems pretty simple.  Grab and Go quietly.  Probably similar reasons to why we are not tarrying.  Some folks say this tells us not to tell anyone until we have the treasure in a safe and secure place.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5. Wisely find the marker/path, the treasure will be below this blaze, don’t wait, grab and go.  Tell folks once you and the chest are secure.
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6

Good luck in finding the blaze, Dal has some examples that Forrest sent him (they are not the real treasure blazes). lummifilm.wordpress.com/scrapbook-twenty-three/  If you have any other ideas of blazes, please leave a comment.

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3PJs4Gold #4: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #4: No Place for the Meek, Heavy Loads and Waters High (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The fourth clue contains a whole lot of info.  Some folks have even taken this sentence as four separate clues.  That would put a major emphasis on four lines of this poem.  Yes, they are important and there’s a whole bunch going on, but these all seem to refer to what happens as you progress on your journey.  So let’s talk about these lines:

“From there it’s no place for the meek”:  It has been suggested that rocky terrain or arid desert is no place for the meek, this basically describes the Rockies and most of New Mexico.  It has also been suggest that Mt Meek in Colorado is an option.  I prefer the rough and rugged rocks belief.

“The end is ever drawing nigh;”:  This has been suggested to be a cliff or a bend in the river.  It has even been suggested to be a road like Midnight Dr.  The only geographic shapes that have no end are circles or spheres. In a picture with Forrest Fenn at Nine Mile Hole, he is standing by a round boulder.  I like the river bend concept.  A cliff over a bend in the river and I would be ecstatic.

“there’ll be no paddle up your creek,”:  This line seems to be pretty self explanatory.  It might be a river that you cannot canoe, maybe it’s too rocky or it is a dry river bed which are common in New Mexico.  This could even be a mountain stream or just a rift.  In all these cases it still seems that you will need to make your way up stream, come hell or high water.  Oh, water high is up next.

”just heavy loads and water high.”:  Is this what might represent heavy loads?

PJ's Hunt for Treasure

PJ lifting Heavy Loads. Forrest Fenn’s Treasure will have heavy loads too.

No, it’s PJ again clowning around.  The common perception is that heavy loads are the rocks and boulder that would be in the river.  There is also talk of mountain gold mines being heavy loads.  There will be rocks everywhere, so this seems like a gimmie, but don’t be fooled by not factoring this into your equation.  Water high has been offered up as waterfalls, dams, pools, anything where water can collect.  Likely flood zones have also been considered.  Some folks have said water towers, but we now know from Forrest’s 11th clue on the Today show, that outhouses and any other structures are not associated with the treasure.

These lines will definitely factor into your path when seeking the treasure and Dal, of course, has some insight on these clues as well at:

lummifilm.wordpress.com/part-two-interpreting-the-clues/

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5

When figuring out your path, make sure that you are wise in your selection, especially when being wise is in our next blog.

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PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #3: Below the home of Brown (3PJs4Gold #3)

The third clue deals with the “home of the Brown”, this has been touted as the main clue.  If you find the home of the Brown, you will find the location of where to start your search (which particular canyon or river) and possibly complete your search.  The full clue is “Put in below the home of Brown.”  So the thought is that your search begins below this thing that is Brown.  I say ‘thing’, because people have conjectured that it is the home of a famous person, explorer, or celebrity (i.e., The unsinkable Moly Brown), a color of a mountain, or the name of an animal.  Since Brown is capitalized (Forrest meant it that way) it is assumed to be a proper name or an animal’s name like Brown trout or Brown bear.  Capitalization also denotes importance.  Dal, one of the most avid searches, believed it was related to Brown trout

http://lummifilm.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/part-two-interpreting-the-clues/

This was a few years ago, he may have other thoughts as well and he shares them on his blog.  Dal’s blog has been very insightful.  Thanks for sharing Dal.

Many folks believe that ‘Put in’ hints that Forrest put the chest in a cave or in the water.  Or I have seen others say that ‘Put in’ is a boating/fishing team meaning put the boat in the water or step into the river to start your journey, such as, ‘put in’ at the boat ramp.  I prefer the later interpretation of ‘put in’ meaning start the journey or launch your ship.

The launching version makes cense for where we are in the poem too,  we are only at the 8th line of 24 (1/3 of the way).  Also the next line begins, “From there”, it sure seems like Forrest is still giving step by step directions once we establish a starting point.  However, using either version, you will still need to define the home of Brown.  Whether you do an extensive search directly below the home or whether it is a launch point depends on your other clues, such as finding the blaze

But I would not be surprised if this clue actually has double meanings.  It is the shortest clue and the most succinct.  You may find the treasure under the home of Brown, but after starting from a different home of Brown.

The home of Brown

Do you think this is the home of Brown; I think Not

Do you think Forrest meant PJ’s Home of Brown.  I think not.  Let’s use Yellowstone as an example.  Begin where warm water halts.  Clue 2. The Madison River was one of Forrest Fenn’s Favorite rivers for many fishing holes.  The Madison River flows into the Hebgen Lake which is dammed.  The Geysers from Yellowstone feed into the water of the Madison via Fire Hole River.  Hence Warm waters halt at the dammed lake.  Clue 3.  Grizzly Bears are a subspecies of ‘Brown bears’ per wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_bear  Grizzlies live in Yellowstone and therefore it is there home, so when the Madison River crosses into Yellowstone, we ‘Put in below the home of Brown’ (i.e., Launch) for our search.  (As an example of the double meaning, if we find the treasure under water, Brown trout live in the river, so it could be said that the gold was ‘put in below the home of Brown’.)

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4.

Therefore I believe the most import way to use this clue is to use the launch definition and determine what is the home of the Brown and start your quest below it; where warm waters halt.  This would also be the point where you would start measuring any distances if you buy into the cypher concept.  But keep an ever watchful eye out for a Blaze under ‘the home of Brown’.  I am currently inclined to believe that home of the Brown, means Brown Trout, but I would hate to deter great searching.

Any other thoughts on what the home of the Brown is?  Thoughts on clue 4 will be in the following blogs.

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PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #2: Warm Waters Halt

Now for the second clue, but first I promised that there would be elephants on this Junket, so from the first clue, we surmised that the old treasure was in Yellowstone and the river could be used as a cypher to unlock the new treasure’s location.  Well, in Yellowstone there is a mountain called Elephant Back Mountain in the center of the park.  I love Yellowstone, I have great memories from visits as a kid too.

PJ's Hunt for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Elephant Back Mountain in Yellowstone

The most memorable was when I accidently took an absorbent amount of sequential pictures of Old Faithful while my parents were entranced by the fabulous fountain and not watching their youngest child use his new camera for the first time.  We had enough pictures to make grandmas and the cousins photo albums too.

So back to the second clue, the commonly excepted explanation is that this is where to start the search, where warm waters halt.  Even Forrest Fen says hunters should start looking here, but what are warm waters and what is halting?

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3

Warm waters have been frequently suggested to be geysers or hot water springs flowing into the river.  Fenn was a fisherman and one of the seekers, has pointed out that the definition of Warm Waters per New Mexico wildlife website (http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/recreation/fishing/index.htm) , is any stream or lake not classified as a trout river.  I prefer the hot springs definition, but we need to keep our options open.

What does waters halt mean.  This is commonly excepted to be a dam or where a river flows into another river.  I hole heartedly agree.  The NM wildlife website has a very helpful map of all the fishing lakes and dams.

“And take it in the canyon down”.  This seems very innocuous, every river is basically a canyon.  It all depends on the depth and width.

“not far, but too far to walk.”  Ok! That seems reasonable, I don’t really want to walk all that far anyway.  I have read almost everywhere that this means Forrest drove to drop off the trove.  Although it could mean that there is a steep drop off or deep rocky canyon.  Either way, this is a starting point not the final hiding spot; just be careful, if there is a cliff.

So, the proposed clue is:  Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].

But where do we start?  The thoughts on that will be in the following blog

PJ’s PJ 4 PJs and Gold – Clues to Forrest Fenn’s Treasure: Clue 1

The Poem by Forrest Fenn, is the key to finding the treasure.  Mr. Fenn has said that there are nine clues in the poem.  Many folks have tried to narrow down 9 phrases or words that are the most important hints, but with 174 words, 24 lines, and 9 sentences, Forrest has stated that the words are important.  He did have several years to write it.  Hmmm, 9 sentences.  I believe that each sentence is a clue.  Yes, some of them may have multiple ideas, but it would be hard to imagine that the first 4 lines would be unimportant.

Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2
Put in below the home of Brown. 3
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5
So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? 6
The answer I already know, 
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak. 7
So hear me all and listen good, 
your effort will be worth the cold. 8
If you are brave and in the wood
 I give you title to the gold. 9

Let’s discuss the first sentence.  Several folks believe that this is just a introduction or Forrest is choosing the treasures to add in the box.  This is over 1/8 of the poem, there has to be something about the location here.  The common belief is that Fenn is saying, he took the treasure to the secret hiding spot.  The next phrase is the key, “And hint of riches new and old”.  Some think that this means there were Treasures there before, like gold.  I believe that this means that the clues work for both old riches and new treasures.  Old riches would be like Forrest’s favorite sport; fishing.  It is well known and well documented in Forrest’s memoir that Fenn’s old favorite fishing spot were in Yellowstone.  The favorite fishing hole is 9 mile hole.  Now we need to find that new riches; the treasure.  The old riches  9 mile hole could be used as a cypher (key) to find the new riches.  Fisherman use mileage of the rivers to compare mileage in other rivers.  We need the other clues to tell us were to take this distance from.  But be careful, every river is different, it’s just a hint, not an exact measurement.  Plus, there are over a million people a year that visit Yellowstone, and professional treasure hunters have searched the area with metal detectors over the last 2 years. If there was gold here, It would have been found already.  This allows Forrest to pay homage to Yellowstone and still hide his treasure.

So, the first clue is a cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting to new riches: The treasure.

But where?  The thoughts on that will be in the following blogs.

PJs Pachyderm Junket Clues

I think Nine Mile Hole (old riches) is a cypher to the gold (new riches)

PJ’s Pachyderm Journey for Precious Jewels and Gold

PJ’s special assignment.  PJ’s going on a treasure hunt.  PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & gold (PJ’s Pachyderm Journey for Precious Jewels and Gold).  We are tracking down Forrest Fenn’s treasure based on the following poem containing 9 clues.  And yes, there are elephants involved (at least in my version of the story).

For those of you who may not have heard.  Forrest Fenn has hidden a treasure worth $1 million to $3 million in the rockies north of Santa Fe, MN.  See this website for more info:  http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/the-thrill-resource-page

The pondering poem from the “Thrill of the Chase” reads: 

As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,

And hint of riches new and old.

Begin it where warm waters halt

And take it in the canyons down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.

From there it’s no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;

There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,

But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.

So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answer I already know,
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak.

So hear me all and listen good,

Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold.

Why go on this quest, you might ask?  Well, there is the financial reward, but I am an engineer, so I want to solve the puzzling poem.  It also gives me a chance to play a little Indiana Jones (without the snakes, I hope).  And lets’ me pretend to be an exploring elephant like PJ in “PJ and the Crazy Squirrels”.  So this blog series will discuss the clues, explain the strategies, and pass on planning tips to find the treasure of Forrest Fenn.

Next post we will discuss the clues.  So, if you have any questions or thoughts, please let me know.

PJ's Goal of Gold

PJ’s Goal is a Treasure box of Gold and Precious Jewels

Pachyderms in the Park; Where’s PJ?

Pachyderms in the Park; Where’s PJ?

With the end of the San Antonio spring break, but the beginning of others, we can look back fondly on these Pachyderms from years ago.  PJ was at an amusement park and saw this carousel with these flying elephants.  Can you tell me, Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Carousel

A Pachyderm Carousel

Hint 2:

Horton was outside of the ride.  Where’s PJ?

Horton the Elephant

Horton in da house

Hint 3

I am not sure what this animal is, but it’s definitely a pachyderm, since it has a trunk.  The girls were younger, but I still had to make them pose.  Where’s PJ?

Riding the Pachyderm

The Girls in Da House

Hint 4

This gives a larger picture of the carousel with Horton on top.  PJ is at an amusement park, but which one?  Where’s PJ?

Horton the Elephant

Horton on top of the Carousel

Answer:

PJ is at Islands-of-Adventure which is part of the universal studios parks in Orlando.  This part of the park is Suess Landing and the carousel is Caro-seuss-el.  It is great for kids.  We had a great time and recommend it for family fun.

Pachyderms at Islands of Adventure

Islands of Adventure. A great place to see Pachyderms

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels is Officially Released

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels is now available on Amazon.com and other book stores;  online and around the corner like Barnes and Noble.

http://www.amazon.com/PJ-Crazy-Squirrels

PJ the Purple Elephant

PJ and the Crazy Squirrels bursting into stores everywhere.

Where’s PJ?: Which Zoo?

We are changing the format of Pachyderm Junket on PJstyle.com.  We will still show the elephant collection, but not everyday.  We will continue Where’s PJ.  So to start this new format, let’s stay with the Zoo theme from yesterday and tell me where this Pachyderm is playing?  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm in a Zoo

What Zoo is this elephant in? Where’s PJ?

Hint 2:

The girls are leaning on a bronze elephant statue at the same pachyderm exhibit.  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Statue

The girls are kick’n back on plant

Hint 3:

The name of the exhibit which the elephants are in is Africa Live.  They have exhibits of many African animals like hippos, crocodiles, and of course elephants.  But, here is an extra credit question; what is different/incorrect about the elephant exhibit than other African exhibits?  Where PJ?

Africa Live

Two elephants at the Zoo

Hint 4:

Angela at the elephant exhibit in Africa Live.  The roses and Angela, beautify the picture, but what about this exhibit (besides Angela) does not fit the African motif?  Where’s PJ?

Pachyderm Exhibit

Elephants in the Park. Where’s PJ?

Answer:

The elephants are at the San Antonio Zoo.  The non-African motif is the fact that these are Asian Elephants as indicated by the placard and seen by the size of their ears.  I guess once a zoo has an elephant it’s a valuable commodity that you do not want to move around even if the rest of the exhibits are from Africa.

Asian Elephants at San Antonio Zoo

Asian Elephants at San Antonio Zoo

Elephants at Zoo-AR.com

I found some elephants on this cool iPhone App Web-site:  Zoo-AR

Take a look at the video on the home page.

zoo-ar.com

Elephant at Zoo-AR

Check it out. Elephant in 3D

PJ’s First Image

This was Linda’s creative interpretation of PJ’s image with a motivational statement.  It was Linda’s first sketch of PJ.

PJ the Purple Elephant

First Image of PJ

Elephant Candlestick Holder

For those that like to burn candles, This elephant candlestick holder can take the flame to new heights.

Do you like candles?

Elephant Candlestick Holder

Anyone have a light?

Where’s this sparkly Elephant?

PJ was at a well known amusement park and went under this elephant during this ride.  Where’s PJ?

Wheres PJ?

This Elephant also wiggles

Hint 2:

Here’s another small hint with a wider view.  Does this help?  Where’s PJ?

Elephant and Friends

Elephant and Friends

Answer:

PJ is riding “It’s a Small World” within Disney’s Magic Kingdom.  There are other elephants on the ride too like this one.  But be careful, the song may get stuck in your head the rest of the trip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It’s_a_Small_World

Its a Small Elephant World

It’s an Elephant in “It’s a Small World”

Linda’s Favorite Elephant

This was Linda’s (my sister’s) favorite elephant.  It was her inspiration for creating her first drafts of PJ.  It was a great gift from her.

What is your inspiration?

Favorite Elephant of Linda

Linda’s Fave