3PJs4Gold #4: Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Clue #4: No Place for the Meek, Heavy Loads and Waters High (PJ’s PJ 4 PJs & Gold)

The fourth clue contains a whole lot of info.  Some folks have even taken this sentence as four separate clues.  That would put a major emphasis on four lines of this poem.  Yes, they are important and there’s a whole bunch going on, but these all seem to refer to what happens as you progress on your journey.  So let’s talk about these lines:

“From there it’s no place for the meek”:  It has been suggested that rocky terrain or arid desert is no place for the meek, this basically describes the Rockies and most of New Mexico.  It has also been suggest that Mt Meek in Colorado is an option.  I prefer the rough and rugged rocks belief.

“The end is ever drawing nigh;”:  This has been suggested to be a cliff or a bend in the river.  It has even been suggested to be a road like Midnight Dr.  The only geographic shapes that have no end are circles or spheres. In a picture with Forrest Fenn at Nine Mile Hole, he is standing by a round boulder.  I like the river bend concept.  A cliff over a bend in the river and I would be ecstatic.

“there’ll be no paddle up your creek,”:  This line seems to be pretty self explanatory.  It might be a river that you cannot canoe, maybe it’s too rocky or it is a dry river bed which are common in New Mexico.  This could even be a mountain stream or just a rift.  In all these cases it still seems that you will need to make your way up stream, come hell or high water.  Oh, water high is up next.

”just heavy loads and water high.”:  Is this what might represent heavy loads?

PJ's Hunt for Treasure

PJ lifting Heavy Loads. Forrest Fenn’s Treasure will have heavy loads too.

No, it’s PJ again clowning around.  The common perception is that heavy loads are the rocks and boulder that would be in the river.  There is also talk of mountain gold mines being heavy loads.  There will be rocks everywhere, so this seems like a gimmie, but don’t be fooled by not factoring this into your equation.  Water high has been offered up as waterfalls, dams, pools, anything where water can collect.  Likely flood zones have also been considered.  Some folks have said water towers, but we now know from Forrest’s 11th clue on the Today show, that outhouses and any other structures are not associated with the treasure.

These lines will definitely factor into your path when seeking the treasure and Dal, of course, has some insight on these clues as well at:


Sentence Clue Discussion of Meaning
As I have gone alone in there
 and with my treasures bold,
 I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old. 1. The clues are hinting to both old and new secret riches.  A cypher of old riches, (Nine Mile Hole in Yellowstone) hinting toward new riches: The treasure.
Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyons down, 
not far, but too far to walk. 2. Start your search at the bottom of a canyon of a hot spring fed river (or any river) flowing into a river (or dam) and travel some distance in the river [likely defined by clue #1].
Put in below the home of Brown. 3.  Launch your quest below the home of Brown. (also start any cypher [Clue #1] measurements here)
From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh; there’ll be no paddle up your creek, 
just heavy loads and water high. 4. You will find rough and rugged rocks at a bend in the river, while traveling up steam passing large rocks with water above you.
If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, 
look quickly down, your quest to cease, but tarry scant with marvel gaze, 
just take the chest and go in peace. 5

When figuring out your path, make sure that you are wise in your selection, especially when being wise is in our next blog.

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